for Concert Technicians and Events Crew
*ATTENTION ALL CURRENT ROADIEJOBS MEMBERS*
Cruise ships employ many people in Music and Touring Industries.
Let's hear from those of you who have done this type of work on cruise ships before.
Is this something worth looking into?
Looking forward to your replies!
I workd on ships for 5 Years. Was amazing.
I have 3 visible tattoos on my forearms. When my boss first saw them(after 3 weeks) he said: "Well they hired you with them, so it really doesn't matter" Also I signed on without a beard and grew one just for shits and giggles. No one seemed to care
lol! i feel you! fuck them! if we cant be ourselves who can we be?!
I worked on Cruise ships for 4 years. 2 years with Royal Caribbean and 2 with Holland America. Holland Treated us way better than Royal. You got to eat in the passenger areas and had room service in our rooms. On Royal there was a staff mess that sometimes had good food but it was mostly unrecognizable as food and sometimes they would try to stick you with a roommate even though your contract was a single berth. I've heard that Norweigen was worse but they are the only cruise line that hire wardrobe. Carnival apparently is awesome to work for since they have no rules so they are the party ships. Though the salary is not comparable to the others for Sound and Lighting. All around its not that high of a weekly pay but for the amount that you work and the places you see it was worth it.
I recently worked on The Barge To Hell metal cruise as an LD. It was a great experience running lights for all of my favorite metal bands. There are photos on my page. Working on a ship was different for me because when I did get a rare minute to just look out at the sea it was great! I would definately work on cruise ships again, whether as a Lighting Tech, Drum Tech or stagehand. I'm also a drummer in several bands and I would take a gig playing on a ship as well.
I currently am working for Royal Caribbean and have been for the past 5 years. Cruise ships are what you make it out to be. If you are looking for that dream job where you can go all over the world and get paid to see amazing things work with state of the art equipment and party like hell every night, then do it. But their are warnings. Unlike a land job where you can go to work and them come home and have completely separate lives, on a ship you will deal with work 24/7 and you have to remember that you may not like everyone but you will definitely have to work with them so put your feelings to the side for 7 months and complain to your friends back at home. Also be prepared for small living spaces "Huge Cosmic Power, itty bitty living space." And finally be prepared to be on show all the time and to have all of big brothers eyes on you watching you making sure that you have been following all the proper grooming standard greeting and smiling to guest, using the 10 feet rule and remembering that you will be most likely doing 75% of your actual job that you have gone to college for and the other 25% maintaining the guest safety on board.
Again Cruise ships are an amazing experience but its not for everyone. I will most definitely say try it for one contract if you don't like it after that then don't come back. At least you can say that you did it and can share some experiences
That's some great insight Jeff, thanks for contributing your thoughts on this.
I love that you talk about the 10 feet rule. It took me months to stop smiling and greeting everyone that I passed. I'd be at my local mall and people would look at me funny. It was a habit hard to break. Royal was stricter than when I was with Holland. Holland had these rules too but they didn't really care what we did. My cabin was in a passenger area so I took passenger elevators and wandered the ship not in uniform. They didn't expect you to cater to the Passengers there as much as Royal Caribbean did. As long as you did your job that is. If you brought attention to yourself then maybe but most of the passengers were 70+ and there were very little children. Only 25-75 kids opposed to the 500-1000 kids that Royal Caribbean ships always got.
I did enjoy working for both companies, it was just amazing to see how different working for 1 cruise line was than the other. I'd do it again except they never paid into my social security so that was becoming a problem. Have you had problems with this?
Occasionally I'll go out on a ship for a month just to help them out. Though its been a year since my last visit.
Having been an LD for a cruise line for a while (about 10 years ago now) some of the positive comments are true, but there is a negative side as well:
The most lowball cruise line is Carnival.
It's not a traditional LD job. It's learn to setup the playback for the show of the night, and maintain gear job.
On the maintenance of gear, it's often hard to get the parts you need, so people hoard things when they get them, leading to inefficiencies and waste in the company.
On the LD side, they get VERY VERY paranoid about the show files and changes to them. Regardless of whether they are needed or not.
It does not pay nearly what any other touring position would.
Also, with Carnival, there is a national strata. They hire for "entertainment" primarily from america, for guest housekeeping from india, for grunt cleaning staff from the phillipines, the officers for Carnival are all from Italy. So there is a nationality base to each sector of work on the ship.
Expect to see corruption in the cruise director around the telling of guests where to shop and then getting kickbacks.
Yes, they are image conscious. However, american employees can get away with more than other nationalities. I had long hair, and after reading the appearance criteria, I told them, I'm not cutting it. They hired me anyway. While >I< was never hassled by officers onboard the ship, I witnessed other non americans being hassled about hair length.
The flip side is that the workload can be low if you keep after maintenance. Far lower than the workload of an average tour.
If you have larger career goals around REALLY learning a console or doing tech owrk based on experience, and the ship HAS that console or gear, adn you put in your own time on it, it can give you good access to gear.
I should mention that most lines FROWN on fraternization with guests. There is also a behind the scenes loathing of guests by many crewmembers. calling them "cones" (this is a reference to roadside cones which are generally just in your way. If you are in entertainment because you love the reaction of the audience? You might not be a good fit socially with the rest of the crew.
For me: I'll take the more work, more money, more LD components to the job, more direct interaction with the audience, more people on the crew like entertainment component of the job, and fewer infringement on my personal appearance of a real tour.
I also worked for carnival, the term cones refers to dunce caps and the passengers being stupid.
like all the stupid questions you answer, what time does the midnite buffet start?